Listen now | In this episode, Mitchell chats with Jorn Van Dijk about the future of his company, Framer, a no-code website builder that has somewhat recently pivoted their company from a previous mission of enabling realistic prototyping. Jorn shares his experience transitioning to the role of CE-YO (CEO), how he’s cultivating a sustainable culture, what he looks for when hiring, what Framer is planning on using AI for, and a ton more.